Guests: Jonathan Maybury & Stephanie Clark (SUEZ ANZ)In this episode, Kate Dryden and Justin Frank sit down with SUEZ leaders Jonathan Maybury (waste) and Stephanie Clark (water) for a straight-talking look at why Australia still thinks in straight lines, and how to bend systems into a circular shape. From Singapore’s NEWater to WA’s aquifer recharge and the politics of social licence, they unpack what’s working, what isn’t, and why economics is the real bottleneck. Expect pragmatic takes on energy-from-waste, purified recycled water, and the planning links we keep missing between data centres, water, and waste. “Aspiration can be the enemy of progress-start with the better option now.” “Be curious, not judgmental” about energy-from-waste. “Yes! In my backyard”Resources Mentioned: Singapore NEWater & desalination models WA groundwater replenishment (PRW to aquifers) Biogas-to-grid pilots and industrial recycled water use IKEA furniture buy-back; City of Sydney social housing recycling upliftHosts: Kate Dryden (Sphere Infrastructure) & Justin Frank (Goterra)

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