Why the church? What is it that it hides our sin from God, through Jesus? How many Christians will debate atheists about sin, arguing that if Jesus was not God he could not save us from His Fathers Wrath? If Jesus did not rise from the dead to sit on his Fathers right hand, we have no hope. True enough but then what does predestination mean? If God did decide from before the world began, who would be saved, what point was there in the sacrifice of Jesus? If some are equally destined for hell, why does Scripture tell us it is the Will of God that all would be saved? There appears to be an unresolved paradox, partly expressed in the Epicurus Paradox dealt with elsewhere. If God condemns some to hell is God evil, and if evil how is it that He did not make provision for all of us to be saved? What does it take for man to be saved. This is a simple problem of the blind leading the blind. The problem is not with God, it is with our faulty leadership and their lack of spiritual guidance. There is no issues at all here, other than the issue of sinful minds alienated from God.

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