The Talk Show

02/08/2025

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Episode Synopsis


On the latest episode of The Talk Show, John and I talked for three hours about hoagies, light mode, dark mode, vintage MacOS, NeXT, Mac OS X, modern macOS, perceived stability, Aqua, and—of course—Liquid Glass.
Leading up to this episode, I wrote these three posts about Liquid Glass, which you may be interested in:

Rose-Gold-Tinted Liquid Glasses
I’ve Got Better Things To Do Than This, and Yet
A Responsibility to the Industry

My issue with Liquid Glass is not an isolated one about the material quality and legibility, but rather a fundamental one about the implications of integrating buttons, tab bars, and text fields into content views. This issue is rooted in the directional change of Apple platforms from 2014.
I know three-hour podcasts are often tedious. I can’t know if what we talk about will resonate with you or be worth your time.
But if you have a long drive or trip coming up, buckle up.

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