In the first of our 'En-LITE-ning Dialogues', a new occasional series of in-depth discussions exploring educational topics, Leeds Institute for Teaching Excellence (LITE) Director Gabriel Cavalli is joined by two guests with a shared interest in sustainable innovation and design.The first guest is Margaret Bearman, Research Professor at the Centre for Research Assessment and Digital Learning (CRADLE), Deakin University. Margaret was in Leeds to attend the Student Education Conference 2025, and to deliver the keynote presentation titled 'Exploring sustainable innovation in university teaching and learning'.The second guest is Jeff Grabill, Deputy Vice Chancellor for Student Education at the University of Leeds. Prior to joining Leeds, Jeff was the Associate Provost for Teaching, Learning, and Technology at Michigan State University.As with each episode in this series, guests are joined by a member of the LITE team (Robert Averies) to provide an additional reflective lens.Join us as we 'let the magic emerge'...Music credits: Taste of saxophone by Fresh_Morning on pixabay

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