This week we spoke with Orlando Hayes. Orlando is an ecological consultant at the Engineering company Arup and the co-founder of a non-profit called ShoutOut - a non-profit focused on connecting service providers and people experiencing homelessness (link to their Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/shoutoutsyd). We speak with him about ecological cities, some of the cool things cities are doing to promote ecological diversity in the city, what being carbon neutral versus carbon zero means, and why we should all just stay home forever (animals should rule the environment - not us). All jokes aside - please enjoy this episode with ORLANDO HAYES.  Support the show

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