Here's a special preview of a new Pushkin podcast, Started from the Bottom. Every week on Started from the Bottom, host Justin Richmond interviews successful people who grew up on the outside – people of color, people who weren’t part of the old boys’ network, people who came from a world where almost nobody went to college. How did they do it? How did they beat the odds while also beating away the feeling of being an imposter? In this episode, Malcolm Gladwell joins Justin for a conversation on race, identity, and how to succeed in a professional world where not many people look like you. Listen to Started from the Bottom at apple.co/thebottom.

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