Björn Lundén, the founder of Björn Lundén Information in Sweden, is an original rebel. He doesn't believe in rules or bosses or 'secret salaries'. We talk about how his company of 115 employees has been self-managed for over thirty years, his thoughts on the future of work, and why so few interested visitors actually implement this way of working when they return to their own companies. More resources: "A Liar's Voyage", a 60-minute documentary on YouTube about Björn Lundén The Björn Lundén website: https://www.blinfo.se/ The book "Maverick" by Ricardo Semler, the man that inspired Björn back in the late 80s

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