In this episode of Law at the End of the World, we’re joined by Dr Birsha Ohdedar - legal scholar, climate justice advocate, and thinker on post-growth futures. Birsha shares his academic journey, insights on navigating the tensions between scholarly work and real-world impact, and reflections on law's role in climate and environmental justice. He speaks on the promise of post-growth frameworks, prefigurative legalities, and the importance of slowing down to reimagine what law can do.Reflecting on Birsha’s interview, hosts Cristy Clark and Elizabeth Macpherson explore the challenges of parenting within academia and make a case for slow scholarship in a high-pressure sector. The episode closes with updates on current developments in environmental law and future directions for research.Show notes:See below for a list of resources relevant to the themes or issues discussed during this episodeClarke, Cristy Prefiguring legal alternatives in environmental and climate justice struggles in AustraliaFor more on our guest Birsha Ohdedar's workEnvironment Minister Murray Watt heads west to restart 'Nature Positive' talks, with a decision on Woodside's gas project loomingCrisafulli government reneges on pre-election funding pledge by axing environmental legal aidLandmark Legal Victory for England’s Rivers: The Court of Appeal's Pickering Judgment - Environmental Law FoundationThe UK Rights of Nature networkSwimmable Cities Summit 2025 - Rotterdam Regulatory Standards Bill 155-1 (2025), Government Bill – New Zealand Legislation Indigenous Rights in One Minute : What You Need to Know to Talk Reconciliation – Harbour PublishingHigher Expectations – Between the Lines: How to Survive Academia, Make it Better for Others, and Transform the UniversityOne Ocean Science CongressWould you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note hereVisit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. You can also find us on the following platforms: LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy Bluesky - Liz & Cristy Our websites - Liz & Cristy

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