Patrick Higgins is a composer of experimental music, including works for chamber orchestra, string quartet, percussion ensemble, and his own virtuosic and unique language on guitar and electronic processing. He's been a member of the classic New York avant-garde band ZS since 2012, and his music has been performed around the world.  Our conversation gets into Pat's amazing string quartets, the meaning of narrative in instrumental music, opening up space to think differently, his concept of "social death", and the moral valence of making experimental music.   👉 Many thanks to my patrons! Consider becoming one here: https://www.patreon.com/lastthingspodcast 👉 If you'd like to join my Discord server, you can request an invitation here: https://www.charlielooker.com/join 👉 If you'd like to subscribe to the monthly Last Things newsletter, sign up here : http://eepurl.com/do92G5

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