Show notes:We lost a bit of audio near the end, including Marky’s Twitter handle. Sorry, Marky! You can follow him at @markyjackson5.Rich's TwitterPodcast TwitterLorin Hochstein’s talk about SpinnakerListener questions this episode from @walidshaari, @ebcarty, @mauilion, and @rawkode. Thank you!Logo by the amazing Emily Griffin.Music by Monplaisir.If you enjoyed the episode and you’re in a position to help others, please consider making a donation to your local food bank. Keeping as many people fed as possible is critical right now. If you’re in the US and you’re not sure where your nearest food bank is, you can use this locator from Feeding America. Any donation helps. And if you need food, please use their services. We all need help sometimes, and you’re not alone.Thanks for listening.

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