In this episode, Cody Matchett talks with Susy Flory and Scott Johanningsmeier about their book, Jesus Was: Not What We Expected but Better Than We Imagined.Susy Flory is a New York Times best-selling author or coauthor of eighteen books, directs West Coast Christian Writers, and is the founder of Everything Memoir. Her book The Unbreakable Boy became a feature film in wide release in March, 2025. Susy earned a master's degree in New Testament at Northern Seminary and is finishing up her doctoral studies on women writers in the ancient world, including the New Testament era. She lives in Northern California.Scott Johanningsmeier is a bivocational pastor at Elizabeth Baptist Church in Southern Indiana. He has a bachelor's degree in music technology from Indiana University and a master's degree in New Testament from Northern Seminary. Outside of ministry, he works in the technology installation industry. He and his wife have two daughters.Ethereal Vistas by Denis Brodovskyi

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