Is the point of this episode for Governor Kasich to convince Klepper and comedian Michael Ian Black to listen to Justin Bieber? Ooh baby, you better Belieb it! The thoughtful and hilarious Michael Ian Black comes on to talk about how he learned to expose his vulnerabilities and open up more, why there’s so much obsession around political divides and cancel culture, and how Kasich & Klepper teaming up reminds him a lot of his friendship with Meghan McCain. Michael’s latest book, “A Better Man: A (Mostly) Serious Letter to My Son” is available now and listen & subscribe to Michael's podcasts, MIKE AND TOM EAT SNACKS and OBSCURE.
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