Christian recording artist Matthew West recently removed his satire song of advice to his daughter, “Modest Is Hottest,” after a fierce online backlash. Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Alyssa McNally unwrap the burden and hurt inside overzealous modesty culture. Then, Suzie Lind interviews Jake Smith, president of the spiritual retreats company and counseling company, Plumline.

Learn more about Jake and Plumline at the group’s website and Jake’s Instagram (@goplumline).

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