I went to my shrunken 2020 Thanksgiving yesterday & something strange happened: I struck up a nearly 4-hour conversation about K-pop with my cousin Savanna (21, from episodes 14 & 41)and my cousin Kellie's 13 year-old daughter Kimberly, who seems to know EVERYTHING about K-pop. At a certain point I asked them if I could record the conversation for a podcast & they were cool with it, thankfully (this is something you have to deal with when you're related to me). This was a fun & unexpected conversation & a nice distraction from the weirdness of 2020. Special thanks to Savanna and Kimberly!

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