This week, Ira spoke with Joshua Jay, author of How Magicians Think: Misdirection, Deception, and Why Magic Matters. In this conjuring episode of Ira’s Everything Bagel, Joshua talks about his journey through magic starting at age seven when his father showed him a trick; why it’s important to think like your audience; pushing your boundaries; why the best part of magic is the part most people never get to see; what it was like to interview David Copperfield, Teller, and David Blaine; why his book skirts around the secrets of magic but deepens people’s appreciation of the subject; and why he wrote this love letter to magic.

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