This week, Ira spoke with Deviant Ollam, a physical penetration specialist (breaking into buildings, gated communities, & “impenetrable” server rooms). In this unlocked episode of Ira’s Everything Bagel, Dev talks about his journey to the world of checking security for companies and organizations; how his business role is to get caught; how insecure we really are; the role of locks in society, in some cases symbolically sending a message that “this isn’t your place” and, in other cases, actually providing a layer of security; why low-tech is sometimes the way to go for security; the difference between being secure and feeling secure; and the most effective and low-cost item you can use to provide security in your hotel room.

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