Behind the Mic, Episode 2In this second Behind the Mic bonus episode, we take a deeper look at some of the big themes explored in IPAA Insiders Season 1, with a focus on leadership, purpose, and the role of diversity in strengthening the public service.Host Jo Rose is joined by Public Service Commissioner Kathrina Lo and Megan Maletic, previous Lead Consulting Partner at Deloitte for the NSW Government and public services sector. Together, they reflect on what effective leadership looks like in times of complexity, change, and fiscal constraint, and why inclusive, purpose led leadership is critical to delivering outcomes for the people of New South Wales.The conversation explores how values such as integrity, service, and stewardship come to life in everyday leadership, regardless of role or seniority. Kathrina shares insights from her sector wide perspective, highlighting the importance of frank and fearless advice, building trust through relationships, and maintaining a clear focus on long term outcomes, not just immediate outputs.Jo and Megan reflect on the importance of understanding the broader public sector ecosystem, staying curious about national and global trends, and drawing strength from diverse perspectives. The episode also highlights practical ways individuals can champion diversity and inclusion in their own spheres of influence, from recruitment and team culture to allyship and professional networks.Whether you’re navigating change, aspiring to leadership, or thinking about how you contribute to a more inclusive and effective public service, this Behind the Mic episode offers thoughtful reflections and practical insights to support your journey.SHOW CREDITS Host: Jo RoseWriters: Alessia Campagna, Nicola Hardy and Jo RoseProducer and Editor: Alessia CampagnaTechnical Producer: Anthony WatsonExecutive Producers: Jo Rose and Nicola Hardy Music Credits: Let The Good Times Roll: Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/ra/let-good-times-rollLicense code: DNAIHKYCKOUU6HBT Enchanted Puzzle: Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/andrey-rossi/enchanted-puzzleLicense code: YTN0OYX8RBDDUQ73 Easy Flow: Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/hybridas/easy-flowLicense code: R2FTWOYRCB7YOW21Not That Easy: Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/not-that-easyLicense code: MYQOVXXWAFZULECH On Tiptoes: Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/on-tiptoes We would like to acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which the podcast is taking place today. We pay our deep respects to all Elders past, present and emerging. We would also like to extend that respect to any Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples listening today.

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