Daniel is an entrepreneur and was raised inside the church. His journey into understanding the nature of fraud and its application to religion started when he was excommunicated from his church for exposing sexual abuse. This has led him to ask the hard questions around his most deeply held beliefs. He has found healing through conversations around faith and abuse. He shares very personal stories with the hope that it will help others to find strength and healing.

Rachel and Daniel discuss the shared tactics of fraudulent businesses and coercive religious groups, while Daniel goes in-depth about the personal experiences behind his motivation to educate people about the archetypes of fraud in all of its forms.

Before You Go: Rachel touches on Robert Cialdini's concept of "pre-suasion", the idea of strategically conveying messages in order to make someone more open to subsequent manipulation. She offers advice on how to notice the signs of "pre-suasion" in order to avoid this subtle but powerful form of influence.

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