Today we're joined by Lorenz Lehmann, The Master of Labels at growthepie.xyz. In this episode we're discussing:- What does ‘Grow The Pie’ do?- What is Grow The Pie measuring? - Indexed & aggregated data- Most profitable L2 vs biggest loser - Base rollups- Ethereum block time constraints - L1/L2 economics overview - Network fees, Blob space miss-pricing, tariffs needed?- L1 fees vs Blob fees- Who’s ETH aligned?- Ethereum calldata, Celestia vs Ethereum Blobs- Celestia’s DA economics/scalability- Paying for data/Grow The Pie costs, data as a public good- Block space utilisation - Grow The Pie’s labelling solutionAnd much more—enjoy!—Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction(03:07) Why ‘Grow The Pie’?(05:10) What is Grow The Pie measuring? (08:58) Indexed & aggregated data(10:09) Most profitable L2 vs biggest loser (14:33) Base rollups(15:51) Ethereum block time constraints (17:46) L1/L2 economics overview (20:42) Network fees, Blob space miss-pricing, tariffs needed?(32:35) L1 fees vs Blob fees(33:53) Who’s ETH aligned?(40:24) Ethereum calldata, Celestia vs Ethereum Blobs(45:03) Celestia’s DA economics/scalability(47:39) Paying for data/Grow The Pie costs, data as a public good(55:51) Block space utilisation (56:27) Grow The Pie’s labelling solution(1:01:59) Outro—Follow the guest:https://x.com/LehmannLorenzFollow the co-hosts:https://x.com/hildobby_https://x.com/0xBoxerhttps://x.com/sui414Follow the Indexed Podcast:https://twitter.com/indexed_pod—The Indexed Podcast discusses hot topics, trendy metrics and chart crimes in the crypto industry every 1st and 3rd Thursday of the month, brought to you by wizards @hildobby_ @0xBoxer @sui414.Subscribe/follow the show and leave a comment to help us grow the show!—DISCLAIMER: All information presented here should not be relied upon as legal, financial, investment, tax or even life advice. The views expressed in the podcast are not representative of hosts' employers views. We are acting independently of our respective professional roles.

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