This week, Jairus Matthew Copeland talks with returning guest David for a deeply reflective conversation about growth, humility, and rediscovering home. After spending the past year back in Zimbabwe, David shares what it’s taught him about creativity, culture, and identity—how building something in a place where systems often fail has reshaped his perspective on purpose and perseverance. Together, they explore the power of starting from zero each day, the balance between ego and evolution, and the freedom that comes with admitting you don’t have it all figured out. It’s a thoughtful, grounded discussion on what it really means to keep showing up, stay curious, and keep becoming.

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