In this episode of In Between Sessions, Lili is joined by the multi-talented Alie B. Gorrie (artist, educator, and disability advocate) for a conversation about how creativity can support mental health outside the therapy room.
They talk about trying new things without needing to be good at them (pottery, anyone?), how creativity can offer relief from anxiety, and the important distinction between therapy and things that are therapeutic. Alie B. shares what she’s learned from her work in arts in medicine and how cultivating “third spaces” and playful creative rituals can be healing in ways you might not  expect.
Whether or not you identify as an artist, this conversation is a reminder that you don’t need to do it “right”, you just have to do it in a way that feels accessible for you.
Resources Shared:
The Art of Possibility by Rosamund Stone Zander and Benjamin Zander
The Dot by Peter H. Reynolds
Jen Waldman
Kickstart Creativity Deck
The Book of Alchemy by Suleika Jaouad
The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
Alie B.’s info:
Website: https://www.aliebgorrie.com/
Instagram: @aliebg
TikTok: @aliebgood
Lili’s info:
Email - [email protected]
Instagram: @inbetweensessionspodcast
TikTok: @lilitorrecounseling
www.lilitorrecounseling.com - reach out to schedule a free 15-minute consult for therapy!
The conversations on this podcast are meant to support, inspire, and inform, but they’re not a substitute for therapy or medical care. Listening to this show doesn’t create a therapeutic relationship. If something you hear resonates and you’d like more support, consider connecting with a licensed mental health professional in your area.
You can search for a therapist at psychologytoday.com.
If you are in crisis or need immediate support, please call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

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