Sharing today, we have Karina Ambartsoumian-Clough and Ekaterina, an alias used by our guest to protect her identity. What about their situation is so unique, you may ask. Well, Karina and Ekaterina have one crucial thing in common - that is their stateless status. Karina has a birth certificate with Odesa as the birthplace, a port once under the USSR. Ekaterina immigrated to the U.S. on a Soviet password. This interview was undoubtedly a teaching moment, and I’m in awe of Karina and Ekaterina’s bravery. It’s stories like these that keep me going, and I hope it touches you, wherever you are, in a way that calls you to be gracious and cognizant.

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