...and why Laz thinks htmx is here to stay.A wide-ranging conversation with the creator of the real-time hypermedia framework Datastar Delaney Gillilan.1.0 launches with a full rewrite, a new website, and a non-profit foundation.* What is datastar?* What's different in 1.0?* Why datastar got rid of all dependencies* Going bigger and planning for the future* Web devs can learn a thing or two from game devs* Is SSE going to have its 'moment'?* Lazarus on why htmx is here to stay* Taking on Tailwind CSS (Stellar)* Rethinking web components (Rocket)* Utilizing UDP (Darkstar)================ GENERAL LINKS ===============Datastar: https://data-star.devDelaney Gillilan on X:https://x.com/delaneygillilanThe Datastar Podcast channel (w Ben & Delaney): https://www.youtube.com/@data-star==============  REFERENCED VIDEOS ============Our first conversation (2024):Hypermedia at 144fpshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTFlUqELVc00:23 V1 and Beyond (The journey to Datastar 1.0 blog post)https://data-star.dev/essays/v1_and_beyond03:18 Anthony AlaribeYou can’t build interactive web apps except as SPA (and other myths) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVKSmR_hBMs&t=9142s03:58 Sam SelikoffHigh Floor, High Ceilinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVKSmR_hBMs&t=5693s01:11:21 Daniel Colbourne - Put Verbs in your database - Event Sourcinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mb2L97Yq882:26:20 Ben Croker Bug fixhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbaGOibJkc&t=1051s============= CHAPTERS (from AI) ==========00:00 The Journey to DataStar 1.002:57 Hypermedia and Modern Web Features05:46 Understanding DataStar's Philosophy08:42 The Core Concept of DataStar11:17 Embracing Server-Sent Events (SSE)14:13 The Evolution of DataStar's Signals17:04 DataStar's Rewrite and New Features20:03 Comparing DataStar with Other Tools22:41 The Future of DataStar and SDKs28:22 Community Building and SDK Evolution29:55 Dependency Management and Performance Optimization32:40 Testing and Metrics in Development35:06 The Importance of Size and Speed38:06 Plugins and Core Functionality42:31 Version 1 Launch and Nonprofit Structure45:20 Introducing Rocket and Stellar54:45 The Evolution of CSS and Semantic HTML59:32 Introducing Darkstar: A New Era for Web Development01:04:12 Event Sourcing and Real-Time Collaboration01:08:15 The Future of Hypermedia and DataStar vs HTMX01:26:44 The Limitations of Polling and State Management01:33:12 Comparing DataStar and HTMX: A Functional API Discussion01:38:18 The Future of Frameworks: DataStar vs. HTMX01:43:35 Hypermedia as the Future of Web Development01:50:39 The Journey of Open Source Development01:54:21 Embracing Collaboration and Innovation01:56:51 The Challenge of Popularity and Engagement01:59:09 Navigating the Landscape of Hypermedia02:03:17 Building a Community and Onboarding02:07:24 Understanding Preferences in Development02:12:04 The Future of SSE and Hypermedia

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