Joe Hart, principal psychologist and director at True Perspective sat down with The HR Leader to talk about leadership, culture, and performance management. Mr Hart related why he feels that perspective is so important as a leadership quality, explaining that to be an effective leader, one needs to be empathetic to their employees' perspectives. Mr Hart also explained where he feels the line is between quantitative and qualitative data-backed decision-making. The podcast conversation was rounded out with a discussion on why culture change needs to start with the leaders in an organisation, with the view that 'you can't beat Mother Nature!'

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