Michael "Pops" Cole, former federal prosecutor and assistant attorney general and current badass, drops into the studio to talk peaks and valleys with Doc.  During the conversation, Pops talks about the Risk Continuum; the importance of knowing how to use your gear; the distinct lack of appeal of Norwegian rations; Winter, Mountain, and Jungle Warfare Schools; the finer points of rugby; and the frustration of the guy in flip flops in front of you at the top of Mount Washington.  An instant classic. 

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