In this episode, Jeff and Fran chat with Salma Alam-Naylor, a Staff Developer Experience Engineer at Netlify, about the state of the JAMstack ecosystem. We kick off the discussion by exploring the values of learning in public with tech blogs and dig into Salma's background in music and teaching.You can read Salma's evolving thoughts on frameworks for the web, and check out the WTF project itself.  We touch on a lot of interesting topics about programming languages in general, current trends toward HTML-focused frameworks, and how the edge can support developers in a variety of use cases.This is a wide-ranging conversation about some of the philosophies about the building blocks of the web. Salma is a prolific tech blogger, with tons of useful and thought-provoking posts. Please check out her blog or catch a stream:Salma's WebsiteSalma's Twitch Stream

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