In this episode of Having Had a Spiritual Awakening, we talk with Stephen Ferguson, Executive Director of Crosswinds Recovery, about what constitutes “real” trauma and why comparing levels of trauma can hinder healing. Stephen shares insights from his work and experience in recovery. Stephen, Suzanne and Sarah consider whether spiritual awakenings are inherently turbulent, why transformation often feels disorienting, and the paradox of surrender; how giving up control can sometimes become another attempt to hold onto it. 
 
The Fourth D Club, Missoula, MT, www.4thdmissoula.org
Hosted & Written by Suzanne Garcia Pino
Co-Hosted & Produced by Sarah Grobel Bolstad
Music: I'll Tell You by Sarah Grobel Bolstad & Ian Ford

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