Ellen Kyzer, VP, Client & Community Relations Director, PNC Bank, shares her non-traditional journey from a nonprofit career to banking in today's Grit & Gravitas podcast. "True growth comes from being uncomfortable; from pushing that boundary," says Anne Carnthan, co-host. And it's hard to go there willingly. "Let's not focus on the successes; growth happens in the failures," says Anne Deeter Gallaher, citing Jon Taffer's story at the Harrisburg Regional Chamber VIBE event. Ellen loves helping the institution come to life by investing in people. "I was mid-career, and in my heart, I believed that if I did this job well, I would be able to do more good by supporting this work in the community," says Ellen. Tune in for some big career business vitamins: say yes to hard things; learn about finances and bonds; sometimes you have to dig in and grit it out!

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