When Mark Zuckerberg announced the renaming of his company from Facebook to Meta in 2021, he provoked a surge of interest in this new thing, the Metaverse. But virtual worlds are nothing new, and people have been learning in virtual worlds for over a decade. This episode explores the thought of those who have tackled the practical and philosophical questions that learning in virtual worlds raises. And to be true to the spirit of the subject, Donald and John conducted their discussion INSIDE a virtual world.   0:00 - Intro 1:32 - Introducing VR and the Metaverse 10:08 - Jaron Zepel Lanier (1960- ) 14:30 - Guido Makransky 23:04 - David J. Chalmers (1966- ) 32:23 - Jean Baudrillard (1929 – 2007) 40:50 - Mark Zuckerberg (1984- ) 46:13 - Robert Nozick (1938-2002) 55:47 - Summing up The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Lanier bit.ly/3qU94KV Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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