Demis Hassabis on shipping momentum, better evals and world models

11/08/2025 31 min Episodio 13
Demis Hassabis on shipping momentum, better evals and world models

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Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, sits down with host Logan Kilpatrick. In this episode, learn about the evolution from game-playing AI to today's thinking models, how projects like Genie 3 are building world models to help AI understand reality and why new testing grounds like Kaggle’s Game Arena are needed to evaluate progress on the path to AGI.Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDochQ2zHsChapters:00:00 - Intro01:16 - Recent GDM momentum02:07 - Deep Think and agent systems04:11 - Jagged intelligence07:02 - Genie 3 and world models10:21 - Future applications of Genie 313:01 - The need for better benchmarks and Kaggle Game Arena19:03 - Evals beyond games21:47 - Tool use for expanding AI capabilities24:52 - Shift from models to systems27:38 - Roadmap for Genie 3 and the omni model29:25 - The quadrillion token club