GeoHeroes - Joel Carson
About This Episode
In this episode Guy Marcozzi (https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-marcozzi-b12744a/) interviews Joel Carson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcarson/), Executive Director of the Geoprofessional Business Association (GBA) (https://www.geoprofessional.org/) about his inspiring journey from driller's helper to industry leader. Joel shares how childhood relocations with his Bechtel engineer father—including walking through BART tunnels under construction—shaped his resilience and adaptability. Discover his unconventional path through 25+ years of consulting, the spontaneous "maybe" that changed his career trajectory, and why he believes geoprofessionals make the world better every single day. Packed with leadership insights, honest reflections on the roads not taken, and a passionate vision for the profession's future, this conversation reveals what it truly means to lead with purpose.
About Our Guest
Joel Carson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcarson/) is the Executive Director of the Geoprofessional Business Association (GBA) (https://www.geoprofessional.org/), where he has championed business success for geoprofessionals for over a decade. With 25+ years of consulting experience, his career spans from driller's helper to division manager overseeing 20 offices across 10 states at Kleinfelder. Born into an engineering family, Joel developed early appreciation for infrastructure. His entrepreneurial spirit led him to launch new practice areas and manage national accounts. A passionate industry advocate, Joel believes geoprofessionals make the world better every single day through their commitment to human health and safety.
Our Host
Guy Marcozzi (https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-marcozzi-b12744a/), PE, D.GE, LEED AP BD+C, is a GBA past-president and an experienced CEO, President and Board Member with a demonstrated history of working in the engineering, science and data technology industries and in leadership for various boards of ESOP, non-profit, professional and business organizations.
Show Notes
Introduction
Joel Carson, Executive Director of the Geoprofessional Business Association (GBA)
Has led GBA for 10+ years
Previously a geoprofessional consultant for 25+ years
Early Life and Education
Born in San Francisco, California (mother was fourth-generation San Franciscan)
Father worked for Bechtel Corporation on major infrastructure projects
Early memory: walking through BART tunnel construction with his father
Grew up with five siblings (Wayne, Brad, Jill, Carol, and Mary)
Family relocated every 3-4 years to small towns across the U.S. (Rock Springs WY, Crystal City MO, Delta UT)
Moving frequently taught him to adapt to new situations and overcome challenges
Attended University of Utah, chose civil engineering (initially focused on transportation)
Originally wanted to be a city engineer in a small town
Career Path
First job: found via index card on corkboard at University of Utah engineering department
Started as driller's helper on the back of a drill rig (late 1980s, during Underground Storage Tank Act)
Progressed through: field work → lab work → project management → national account management
Discovered entrepreneurial side: wrote business plan to start environmental practice in Boise office
Moved family to Boise, Idaho to launch new department
Managed national account for Albertsons across Western U.S.
22+ years with Kleinfelder, progressing through leadership roles:
Washington state operations manager (Seattle area)
Regional manager (Omaha, Nebraska - 4 states)
Division manager (20 offices across 10 states)
Needed change every 3-4 years to stay engaged throughout career
Told CEO "I want your job" - led to strategic career guidance
Spontaneously said "maybe" during board meeting discussion - changed career trajectory
Applied for GBA Executive Director role alongside 69 other candidates
Leadership
Greatest satisfaction came from leading people, not completing projects
Views helping others reach their full potential as "the biggest gift"
Communication is the most critical competency for geoprofessionals (written and verbal)
Used "Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage" for year-long leadership study with team
Key mentor: the person who wrote that first job posting index card
Worked together at multiple companies
Provided opportunities and support throughout early career
The Geoprofessional Landscape
Changes Over Time:
* Technology dramatically improved efficiency (hand-drawn plans → digital tools)
* Manual data collection → remote sensing and automation
* AI emerging as potential next disruptor
* Industry consolidation from small firms to mega firms
Core Competencies (Then and Now):
* Communication skills remain most important
* Communication doesn't come naturally to many engineers - requires intentional development
Future Opportunities:
* Climate change (multiple aspects)
* Urbanization and population consolidation
* Eroding infrastructure (U.S. receives poor grades)
* Increasing energy demands
Optimism Level:
* Highly bullish on the profession
* "There will always be a need for the geoprofessions"
* Wherever there's soil, rock, water, and air - geoprofessionals are needed
Life Advice
Core message: Recognize the value and honor of the geoprofessional profession
"Every day you go home from work, the world is a little better place because a geoprofessional was working that day"
Work directly impacts human health and safety for current and future generations
Focus on developing communication skills continuously
Embrace discomfort and new challenges
Pursue operational experience beyond technical expertise
Speed Round
Favorite Book: Good to Great by Jim Collins (https://a.co/d/e372U33); Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage (https://a.co/d/i2DDJD9)
Optimism index: 5 out of 5 (extremely optimistic); Geoprofessionals are critical to society and always will be
Proudest accomplishments: Leading and developing people to reach their full potential
What he'd change: Wondered about starting a consulting firm focused on green building, chose family stability instead
Advice for young professionals: Recognize the impacts you have, this is an honorable profession critical to human health and safety; Your daily work makes the world better for current and future generations
Final Thoughts
Joel expressed gratitude for being part of the GeoHeroes podcast series
Called for Season 2 to continue elevating geoprofessionals' stories
Emphasized importance of celebrating the people doing geoprofessional work every day
Calls-to-action:
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This episode was produced by the following GBA Members:
Ryan White, PE, GE (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryankwhite/) – Principal Geotechnical Engineer/Apex (https://apexcos.com/)

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