In this episode with Mike Cosper, we talk about grace and virtue. How do we "pursue virtue" and not let go of grace? We discuss the difference between self introspection by checking our own fruit, and confessing our sins. When we understand it's the grace that pushes forward any love toward the neighbors in our life, it changes the paradigm. We talk about the theology of the cross, the hiddenness of it all, and the mask that we wear. Books discusssed: Between Noon and Three by Robert Capon Ragged by Gretchen Ronnevik  On Being a Theologian of the Cross by Gerhard Forde The Shepherd's Letter by Bo Giertz Also: Join us at Here We Still Stand this October Support the work of 1517

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