In today's FPC conversation, Jamie Franklin and Dan Kimball sit down with Mark and Sandy Ruiz who have been a part of First Pres for many years. Shortly after Mark retired from a long career in education, he began to prepare for a bucket list trip to walk the famous pilgrimage trail Camino de Santiago. However, God's timeline was not the same as Mark's and he and Sandy share the circumstances that caused a delay in his trip and the spiritual journey leading up to, and eventually completing the 500-mile trek. Please enjoy today's conversation.

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