This episode is for the girl who's walking through pain, disappointment, or healing from a past she never asked for. Mac and Kenz sit down with author, veteran, coach, and fellow Swiftie — Tony Miltenberger to unpack the deep beauty of healing through your wounds. Tony shares the inspiration behind his new book Wisdom in the Wound, his personal journey of uncovering hidden hurt, and how naming our pain can unlock God’s purpose in it. This one is real, redemptive, and full of practical hope.



In This Episode

[05:00] Meet Tony Miltenberger: Army Vet, Podcaster, and Swiftie Dad

[07:30] The Meet Cute: Tony & Karen's Church Youth Group Love Story

[09:00] Wisdom in the Wound: Why Tony Wrote This Book

[11:00] Prolonged Stress & How Trauma Shapes Us

[14:00] Tony’s Wound: Feeling Unseen and How It Shaped His Life

[17:00] Secrets, Shame & Emotional Freedom

[20:00] Using the Emotional Intensity Scale to Find Your Wounds

[24:00] Your Wound and Your Gift Might Be Connected

[27:00] Mac & Kenz Reflect: Discovering Their Own Wounds

[30:00] Parenting Through Wounding & Healing in Real-Time

[34:00] God’s Redemption in the Broken Places

[38:00] Final Encouragement: Name It, Heal It, Watch God Use It



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