For Good Measure, by Ensemble for These Times (E4TT)Episode 63: Da Capo Conversations with Pamela Z and Dawn NorfleetLooking for a way to listen to diverse creators and to support equity in the arts? Tune in weekly to For Good Measure!In this week’s episode, we revisit Pamela Z’s and Dawn Norfleet’s perspectives on their paths to becoming a composer. If you enjoyed today’s conversation and want to know more about Pamela Z and Dawn Norfleet, check them out here and here. Parts of this episode originally premiered on January 18, 2021, on Youtube, click here and on January 17, 2022, on Youtube, click here.This podcast is made possible in part by a grant from the California Arts Council and generous donors, like you. Want to support For Good Measure and E4TT? Make a tax-deductible donation or sign up for our newsletter, and subscribe to the podcast!Intro music: “Trifolium” by Gabriela Ortiz, performed by E4TT (Ilana Blumberg, violin; Abigail Monroe, cello; Margaret Halbig, piano),  as part of “Below the Surface: Music by Women Composers,” January 29, 2022Outro music: “Lake Turkana” by Marcus Norris, performed by E4TT (Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Alchemy,” October 15, 2021Transcription courtesy of Otter.ai.Co-Producer, Host, and E4TT co-founder: Nanette McGuinnessCo-Producer and Audio Engineer: Stephanie M. NeumannPodcast Cover Art: Brennan StokesVolunteer: Merve TokarInterns: Sam Mason and Renata VolchinskayaSupport the showVisit E4TT.org and find us on social media!Instagram: @e4ttTwitter: @e4ttimesFacebook: @EnsembleforTheseTimesListen/subscribe on Soundcloud, Spotify, and YouTube.

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