Change is necessary—but it’s not always easy. Especially when you’re leading a legacy church with deep roots, multiple campuses, and a congregation that’s sensitive to every shift.In Episode 177 of the Fly on the Wall podcast, I sit down with Pastor Ben, who recently stepped into leadership at a church with 75 years of history and only three pastors before him. What followed? Mergers. Staff transitions. A shift in preaching and leadership style.And the tension?Every time he made a change—big or small—people braced themselves.We talk candidly about:✅ How to bring change without blowing up what came before✅ Why getting influencers on board makes or breaks momentum✅ Leading through mergers and finding new roles for displaced leaders✅ The danger of sidelining your spouse’s calling in ministry✅ Why obedience (not balance) is the key to longevityIf you’re in a season of transition—or know one is coming—this episode will help you lead with wisdom, honor the past, and build for the future.👍🏼 Follow us on social media + Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/church.boom+ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mychurchboom+ Website: https://www.churchboom.org👋 About UsFly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.

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