In this week's episode, Phil and Susie talk with Humanist Chaplain, Licensed Clinical Counselor, Coach, and our Good Human of the Week, Bart Campolo.  Bart is the longtime host of the Humanize Me Podcast, author of "Why I Left, Why I Stayed" which he cowrote with his famous, evangelical father, Tony Campolo, following his deconversion from a life as a professional Christian, pastor, and evangelist  He served as the first humanist chaplain at USC and now serves his community as a therapist and coach in Cincinnati and around the world.  Our conversation covers a wide variety of topics, especially around the idea of morality, humanism, having meaningful conversations with people we care about, how to make the world a better place in a secular way, and so much more.  
Bart’s Links:
https://humanizemepodcast.com/ 
https://www.patreon.com/humanizeme 
https://bartcampolo.org/ 
 
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