On part three of the conversation with Karen Ellis and Andy Longwe, Gabe and Randy discuss shame, grace, and having perspective on where we are at with Christ. This conversation is split into four parts. Be sure to go back and listen to the previous episodes, and don't forget to subscribe for the last installment!----------------------------------------------------Karen Ellis is the Director of the Alonzo and Althea Edmiston Center for the Study of the Bible and Ethnicity at Reformed Theological Seminary.To learn more about Karen, visit: https://rts.edu/people/mrs-karen-ellis/ Andy Longwe is the minister of London City Presbyterian Church in the U.KTo learn more about Andy, visit: https://lcpc.org.uk/----------------------------------------------------First Takes is produced by First Presbyterian Church in Chattanooga, Tennessee, Our theme music was written and recorded by West Breedlove.Our sound engineer is Dylan Thomas. Our host is Dr. Gabriel N.E. FluhrerSara Kaitlin Van Puffelen is our executive producer. For more information about First Presbyterian Church, visit our website: https://1stpresbyterian.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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