In this episode, we sit down with Michael Herbert, author of The Recovery Roadmap: A Guide to Freedom and Adventure, to explore what it means to build a life in recovery that is honest, meaningful, and resilient. Michael brings over 35 years of experience as a recovery strategist, counselor, and interventionist — and he’s walked his own path through addiction, healing, and growth.
You’ll hear:


The concept of “finding something appealing in abstinence and recovery” — asking the vital question: “Now that I’m abstinent, what energizes me? What makes my heart sing?”


How to balance external guidance with inner knowing to create a recovery that truly fits you


Why building self-trust is essential — learning to trust that you are okay and will be okay


How to trust the recovery process, especially for those used to control (first responders, high-stress professionals)


A reframed view of humility — not as weakness, but as strength: the strength to learn from everyone


The power of “Just for Today” — focusing on the present, reflecting on what you gain by staying clean today and what you lose by going back


Michael’s reflection on the idea of “Pay Day” — how recovery gradually increases your “pay” in physical, mental, emotional, relational, and spiritual health


Whether you’re in recovery, supporting someone who is, or working in the field of addiction and healing, this conversation offers grounded hope, practical wisdom, and fresh perspective.


Guest Links


🌐 Michael Herbert’s Website: coachmichaelherbert.com


📘 Book: The Recovery Roadmap: A Guide to Freedom and Adventure — available through major booksellers and on Google Books


🧭 Free Recovery Guide Companion: coachmichaelherbert.com/recovery-guide

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