Listen "Our Ultimate Treasure: Discovering God’s Heart for Your Finances with Afton Phillips"
Episode Synopsis
Ever wonder why money so often reveals what we truly value? Today, we’ll find out.You probably know that on Faith and Finance, Rob West is usually the one asking the questions. But today, we’re turning the tables. Afton Phillips (Head of Content at FaithFi: Faith and Finance) is here to interview Rob West about a devotional project that he has been working on—one that goes straight to the heart of our financial lives.Afton Phillips is the Head of Content at FaithFi: Faith & Finance. The Heart Behind Our Ultimate TreasureWhen Rob first started writing Our Ultimate Treasure: A 21-Day Devotional to Faithful Stewardship, he didn’t set out to create another resource about money management. He wanted to create a journey of the heart—a way for believers to rediscover what Scripture truly says about money and how it reflects our relationship with God.Over the years, Rob has had thousands of conversations with people who genuinely want to honor God with their finances but feel stuck or uncertain about how to begin. That longing—to be faithful, yet unsure how—has shaped everything about this devotional.Rob has spent his entire career at the intersection of faith and finance. Early on, he noticed something that changed how he viewed everything: it didn’t matter whether someone had $60,000 in credit card debt or $60 million in investments—the struggles were the same. Money issues are heart issues.That’s why Jesus spoke about money more than almost any other topic. Not because He needed our resources, but because He knew how easily our hearts become tangled up in them. The goal of this devotional is to help readers slow down and realign their hearts with God’s purposes—to see money not as a source of stress or identity, but as a tool for worship.Jesus said, “Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” That simple truth sits at the foundation of everything we teach at FaithFi. How we spend, save, and give reveals what we treasure most.If we focus only on the surface—budgeting better, saving more, paying down debt—we might improve our circumstances but still remain captive to worry or pride. The real transformation happens when God changes our hearts. When our relationship with money is shaped by trust in Him, freedom begins to flow naturally.Moving from Ownership to StewardshipOne of the most freeing shifts in a believer’s financial life is learning to see ourselves not as owners, but as stewards. When we live as if we own it all, we carry the crushing weight of control—every financial decision feels like it rests on our shoulders. But when we recognize that God owns it all and we’re simply managers of His resources, everything changes.Stewardship invites us to ask a new question: “Lord, what do You want me to do with Your money?” That posture leads to peace, not pressure. It transforms spending into gratitude, saving into preparation, and giving into worship. When we release ownership, we stop building our own kingdoms and start participating in God’s.Biblical wisdom provides a framework for every financial decision we make. The world tells us to chase comfort and security; Scripture calls us to pursue faithfulness. God’s financial principles aren’t restrictive—they’re protective.When we live within our means, avoid debt, plan diligently, and give generously, we’re reflecting the nature of an orderly, generous, trustworthy God. Over time, those choices form habits—habits that produce margin, contentment, and generosity. Wisdom doesn’t just shape our money; it shapes our hearts, making us look more like Christ.The Gift of Margin, Generosity, and LegacyOne of the devotionals in Our Ultimate Treasure focuses on the concept of margin. In our culture, we tend to fill every dollar, every minute, and every ounce of energy. But when our lives are maxed out, there’s no space left for God to move.Creating margin is an act of faith. It’s how we say, “Lord, I trust You enough not to live at the edge.” When we budget below our income or leave breathing room in our schedules, we acknowledge that God—not us—is the provider. In that space, we often experience His peace, His provision, and His direction in powerful ways.At FaithFi, we often say that generosity isn’t just about giving—it’s about joining God in His redemptive work. When we give, we participate in something far greater than ourselves.Generosity becomes a reflection of God’s heart and a visible expression of His love in the world. The fruit of generosity isn’t measured in numbers but in lives changed, needs met, and faith strengthened. 2 Corinthians 9:11 reminds us that God enriches us “in every way to be generous in every way.” Our giving is a response to grace—a way to align our hearts with His purposes and trust that every act of faithfulness has eternal impact.Ron Blue has often said, “Is the next steward chosen and prepared?” That question has also shaped how we should think about legacy.Legacy isn’t about wealth—it’s about faithfulness. Preparing the next steward means intentionally helping the next generation understand that everything belongs to God. If we pass on money without passing on wisdom, we’ve missed the point. Our responsibility is to model open-handed living, teaching those who follow us to hold God’s gifts lightly and use them for His glory.A Hope for Every ReaderOur prayer for Our Ultimate Treasure is simple: that it would help readers see money through God’s eyes and experience a renewed relationship with Him.When we understand that everything we have belongs to a generous Father, our posture shifts from fear to trust. We move from striving to surrender. Financial stewardship becomes less about mastering money and more about walking in freedom with God.If these 21 days lead someone to treasure Christ above all else—to trust Him more deeply and handle money in a way that honors Him—then this devotional has done its work.Our Ultimate Treasure is available to all who become a FaithFi Partner by December 31. Partners will also receive the latest issue of Faithful Steward magazine as well as an early release copy of Rob’s new devotional whenever it is released in January 2026. Join us at FaithFi.com/Partner. On Today’s Program, Rob Answers Listener Questions:I’m planning to remodel two bathrooms for about $35,000–$36,000. I have $10,000 saved for repairs, $25,000 in emergency savings, and $45,000 in dividend-producing stocks. Should I use some of the dividend money or take out a low-interest loan to cover the rest?I’ve enrolled in Medicare Part A but not Part B. My company has fewer than 20 employees and will soon only have one. I’ve heard conflicting advice about penalties for delaying Part B, even with proof of insurance. Should I enroll now or wait?If someone saves $10 a week for 30 years, how much would that grow to over time?Resources Mentioned:Faithful Steward: FaithFi’s Quarterly Magazine (Become a FaithFi Partner)Schwab Intelligent Portfolios | BettermentWisdom Over Wealth: 12 Lessons from Ecclesiastes on MoneyLook At The Sparrows: A 21-Day Devotional on Financial Fear and AnxietyRich Toward God: A Study on the Parable of the Rich FoolFind a Certified Kingdom Advisor (CKA)FaithFi App
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Remember, you can call in to ask your questions every workday at (800) 525-7000. Faith & Finance is also available on Moody Radio Network and American Family Radio. You can also visit FaithFi.com to connect with our online community and partner with us as we help more people live as faithful stewards of God’s resources. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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