It's a 4th of July eve podcast with language stud and Michigan son Jack Fordon who Ian met at the Polyglot Gathering in 2017. He tells of discovering Spanish as his first foreign language at age ten and then how he nurtured this language passion onwards to include Chinese, German, Russian, Norwegian, French and many more. Jack enlightens the guys on his current masters in interpreting, his traverses across Europe and the US, differences in Canadian English and his potentially contrarian opinions on language policy in Ukraine. It's an action packed ep with lot of linguistic food for thought.

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