"It's very difficult for me to assess for other people, 'Is this a space where it is safe for them to take risks?' Because they may have very different risk profiles and very different things that make things dangerous. And they may have much more severe consequences that could hit them as a result of things that they bring up. And so I think that I can say that I feel safe in this space, but I don't think I can ever say that for anybody else."Karen & Paul discuss risks, consequences, and safety in group discussions.

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