Martin: Good morning Mr Kile   
Chuck: Good morning Martin, how are you? I'm doing good yourself?  
Martin: I'm really good thank you, thanks for taking the time to speak to me, I understand you've seen bits of some of the videos, I don't know if you know what I'm up to. I'm on this mission with my what the fuck series that I was talking to you about, whenever that was, two years ago. It actually was in production for the first part of this year and then the pandemic came and screwed it all up but I'm on that mission again now.  
My take is that I ran a marketing agency for nine years properly and it was torture. I kind of feel a bit like Oliver Stone, I spent my time in the trenches and now I'm not in the trenches anymore it's my opportunity to tell the world about the horrors that went on with a view to making marketing easier and more accessible to other people.  
The reason I wanted to speak to you is because you're quite different from the people I've spoken to before. I started with Ed, Ed was working in agencies in London, marketing agencies in London, in the 70s. I spoke to Jem, Jem was working on the internet before there was a worldwide internet since 1992. I spoke to Jim, Jim's a business owner who was cheating SEO right at the very beginning and did very well out of it and has learned all those lessons. Then I spoke to Ionut who's ex-agency now internal marketing department, head of marketing, no he's not head of marketing, he is the big one, chief marketing officer, that's what he is.
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