Dan Ward is a Senior Principal Systems Engineer and Innovation Catalyst at MITRE a not-for-profit corporation committed to the public interest, operating federally funded R&D centers on behalf of U.S. government sponsors. In this episode, KJ and Dan share insights on how punk culture's authenticity, DIY ethic, and experimental nature can influence and drive radical changes in the mainstream, displacing conventional methods with innovative solutions. The conversation also touches on the importance of being 'punk enough' in today's fast-paced, status quo-challenging environments, Dan's perspectives on small teams and constraints fostering creativity, and MITRE's unique role as a not-for-profit systems engineering organization focusing on public interest.    Key Takeaways: 04:13 The Core of Disruption and Innovation - Curiosity 07:38 The Evolution of Punk and Its Impact on Mainstream Culture 14:08 The Power of Communication and Community in Disruption 16:14 Are You Punk Enough? Embracing Your Inner Disruptor 21:26 Punk's Essence and the Magic of Trying New Things 34:32 MITRE's Unique Approach to Problem-Solving 35:31 Finding Punk: Beyond Mainstream Channels   Quote of the Show (21:00): "Innovation, disruption, and punk, these all happen in the seams, in the edges, in the extremes, and less so in the mainstream." – Dan Ward   Join our Anti-PR newsletter where we’re keeping a watchful and clever eye on PR trends, PR fails, and interesting news in tech so you don't have to. You're welcome.   Want PR that actually matters? Get 30 minutes of expert advice in a fast-paced, zero-nonsense session from Karla Jo Helms, a veteran Crisis PR and Anti-PR Strategist who knows how to tell your story in the best possible light and get the exposure you need to disrupt your industry. Click here to book your call: https://info.jotopr.com/free-anti-pr-eval   Ways to connect with Dan Ward: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedanward/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thedanward Company Website: http://www.mitre.org/ Website: https://www.thedanward.com/   How to get more Disruption/Interruption:  Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/eccda84d-4d5b-4c52-ba54-7fd8af3cbe87/disruption-interruption Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disruption-interruption/id1581985755 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6yGSwcSp8J354awJkCmJlD  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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