Andy Ellis is the CEO and Principal at Duha, Inc., a boutique advisory firm focused on providing strategic consulting in Leadership, Management, Cybersecurity, Technology Risk, and Enterprise Risk Management. In this episode KJ and Andy critique the conventional application of the growth mindset in corporate settings, discussing how real leadership is about encouraging diversity of skills and thought, acknowledging achievements, and the importance of understanding and addressing challenges realistically.    Key Takeaways: 09:04 The Art of Celebrating Success and Fostering Team Spirit 17:08 Challenging the Growth Mindset in Leadership 20:34 The Trust in Tech Leaders Over Governments 24:58 The Art of Leadership and Embracing Failure 25:29 Effective Marketing and Changing the World Step by Step 27:13 The Efficiency of Embracing 'No' in Startups   Quote of the Show (12:00): “ In an educational environment, if you tell kids that they cannot learn, you induce the closed mindset.” – Andy Ellis   Join our Anti-PR newsletter where we’re keeping a watchful and clever eye on PR trends, PR fails, and interesting news in tech so you don't have to. You're welcome.   Want PR that actually matters? Get 30 minutes of expert advice in a fast-paced, zero-nonsense session from Karla Jo Helms, a veteran Crisis PR and Anti-PR Strategist who knows how to tell your story in the best possible light and get the exposure you need to disrupt your industry. Click here to book your call: https://info.jotopr.com/free-anti-pr-eval   Ways to connect with Andy Ellis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csoandy/ Company Website: https://www.duha.co/about/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/duhainc/   How to get more Disruption/Interruption:  Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/eccda84d-4d5b-4c52-ba54-7fd8af3cbe87/disruption-interruption Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disruption-interruption/id1581985755 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6yGSwcSp8J354awJkCmJlDSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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