In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke chat about one of the Oasis 9 Habits: being hopeful. From starting with the beauty of white hair through to the wisdom of St Augustine of Hippo, from recognising the world of difference between wishful thinking and the fierce reality of hope, we talk about how hope sweats as we take the steps needed to bring about the better future we imagine. We chat about the importance of elders of hope—those who have gone before and know the way. This was such a hope-fuelling conversation. We pray you find it so, too.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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