Nate and Van engage in a wide-ranging conversation covering misinformation, and political discourse, while expressing concerns about leadership and the spread of false information on social media. They discussed personal experiences and shared perspectives on simple-living, sobriety, the importance of controlling what one can in challenging times, and the value of education and peaceful action over violence. Send us a text message letting us know what you think of this episode!We envision a world where design and religion work together to spread love, empathy, and charity faster than divisiveness, selfishness, and hate. To achieve this, we aim to bring the stories of those driving this change—both big and small—into the spotlight, allowing ideas for positive transformation to spread quickly and reach those who need them most. Nate is the Head Pastor at Red Clay Creek Presbyterian Church https://rccpc.org/Van is a Service Designer and Illustrator, and his work can be found at https://www.vansheacreative.com/

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