Nate and Van once again welcome Rev. Dr. Jason Santos to discuss their fears and experiences, dealing with anxiety, and the concept of safety as a tangible reality of needs. They also explore the idea of redesigning religion and the balance between responsibility and faith, touching on topics such as the fear of death, the role of faith in shaping one's perspective on death, and the importance of humility. Send us a text message letting us know what you think of this episode!We envision a world where design and religion work together to spread love, empathy, and charity faster than divisiveness, selfishness, and hate. To achieve this, we aim to bring the stories of those driving this change—both big and small—into the spotlight, allowing ideas for positive transformation to spread quickly and reach those who need them most. Nate is the Head Pastor at Red Clay Creek Presbyterian Church https://rccpc.org/Van is a Service Designer and Illustrator, and his work can be found at https://www.vansheacreative.com/

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