In this special podcast at Indo Pacific Expo, host Steve Kuper is joined by the shadow minister for defence, the Hon Andrew Hastie MP and the shadow minister for defence industry, the Hon Luke Howarth MP, to discuss the news and feeling on the ground at Indo Pacific 2023. In this special two-part podcast, they discuss the news around the national security community and the defence industry represented at the Indo Pacific exhibition in Sydney. They discuss the feeling of concern and dismay among defence industry, particularly SMEs, as the Navy and the industry wait to see the government's response to the independent surface fleet review. They also discuss the growing concerns about our broader national security and the impact on our economic stability and prosperity in this era of great power competition. Finally, they also discuss programs like AUKUS – a true nation-building endeavour – that can provide opportunities and long-term security for generations of Australians. Enjoy the podcast, The Defence Connect Team

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