Though the nature is refusing to cooperate, Deb & Kev are embracing fall and talking about, Deb being very underwhelmed with her birthday and how she is emotionally navigating the personal holiday season and wonders when, or if, she should ever send Kevs girlfriend back home.Kev reflects back on his core memory involving religion and hot air balloons while wondering if humanity has gone too far with pumpkin spice flavorings.As always, special thanks to Lauren Taylor for the podcast art work and Gwyneth Galvin and BenSound www.bensound.com for providing the voiceover and music for the intro and outro!

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